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Vaenka on [10 Mar : 15:55]
FUCK EVERYONE THAT JUST LOGS ON HERE, AND DOESN'T SAY SHIT! Laaammmmeee.

Vaenka on [06 Mar : 21:32]
Quit your bitching and go anyways!

Twitch (Kyle) on [05 Mar : 03:19]
Nevermind its in bountiful, fuck.

Twitch (Kyle) on [05 Mar : 03:17]
Hey whats the march 26th show with NFFU? Please tell me that this is in salt lake

Twitch (Kyle) on [01 Mar : 23:33]
Rebellious cause with some other bands march 19 I believe at kilby court

access-denied on [28 Feb : 15:26]
Yeah, Club Vegas is usually 21 . I know that they have done all ages shows in the parking lot. I saw ASF and Negative Charge last night at Burts. I had a pretty good time.

curt-o on [25 Feb : 05:34]
Fuck that's what me and Chodey are doing right now. So if there are any other local bands that want to setup a show some time hit me up here or on myspace or whatever.

Vaenka on [23 Feb : 12:21]
We need to get some more local shows going, and kids who are down to flyer it up!

Twitch (Kyle) on [17 Feb : 21:56]
March 5 Negative Charge and All Systems Fail. I think at club vegas. Not sure whether its all ages or not

curt-o on [05 Feb : 19:56]
So please say someone has heard of a show coming up?!

Twitch (Kyle) on [02 Feb : 20:08]
Just noticed that mp3s for Hymns Of Hate by Never Say Never are finally up on the website. Thanx coal!

access-denied on [18 Jan : 19:25]
Just those darn crickets.

Vaenka on [16 Jan : 12:53]
Did anyone hear something?

Coal on [15 Jan : 08:21]
I'm here...

Vaenka on [14 Jan : 16:36]
Where in the shit did everyone disappear to? Anyone!?

Twitch (Kyle) on [24 Dec : 21:06]
21 plus that is. It wont show up the plus sign

Twitch (Kyle) on [24 Dec : 21:04]
FUCK 21 shows too. Fear came a while back and its 21 fuck that shit. 21 is gay

Coal on [24 Dec : 10:11]
FUCK CHRISTMAS!!! [link] Give a classic a listen in the spirit of the holiday.

Twitch (Kyle) on [15 Dec : 12:13]
So, who all made it to the battle of the bands to se drunk as shit?

access-denied on [11 Dec : 11:10]
Yeah I think the Casuatlies opened up for 'Less Than Jake' or something along those lines. I didn't make it to the Business due to money.

Twitch (Kyle) on [10 Dec : 02:53]
The business was pretty good.

Vaenka on [29 Nov : 18:09]
Wasn't there either, but was told it sucked a big cock. So you didn't miss out on shit.

Twitch (Kyle) on [28 Nov : 21:44]
I will be there. Haha apparently the casualties had a show today at murray theatre that wasnt promoted very well. I wasnt there but did anyone else go?

access-denied on [28 Nov : 17:38]
Anyone planning on going to the business show in a few weeks.

Coal on [20 Nov : 11:04]
These are the good ol days come on now

access-denied on [14 Nov : 18:35]
Ah, the good ol days. I remember those.

Twitch (Kyle) on [09 Nov : 11:16]
well I wasnt in it in '05, back then I was 12, so I wasnt there to know what is different today. Wasnt endless struggle still together back then?

curt-o on [06 Nov : 16:10]
What local scene?

Twitch (Kyle) on [05 Nov : 14:49]
Whats wrong with the local scene now?

Coal on [05 Nov : 09:54]
Yeah, spirit of 2005 lol.

curt-o on [05 Nov : 02:30]
What did happen to this website? I was just reading old post from 05' and I remember all these shows and it made me laugh because I remember the bands like Bootdown Bois and Nokturnal Emission and DDA and all those shitty ass bands. Lets bring back the local scene!!

MasterShredder on [04 Nov : 15:18]
It is going fine, what the hell happened to this website?

Twitch (Kyle) on [04 Nov : 11:49]
hows it goin

MasterShredder on [04 Nov : 09:12]
Fo Sho

Twitch (Kyle) on [04 Nov : 00:57]
Mastershredder, is that you Tyler?

MasterShredder on [02 Nov : 15:54]
Dude the geeks are awesome like asian alvin and the chipmunks on crack!!

Mi Vida Torta.: on [31 Oct : 20:20]
RUX-the biggest punk band in Korea? You're sadly mistaken. You've obviously never heard The Geeks. Huge following in Korea and in America.

Twitch (Kyle) on [28 Oct : 17:36]
I agree. I hope ya dont turn into an art faggot hippy college fuck like your sister.

Monkey on [28 Oct : 16:43]
FUCK THE MONITARY SYSTEM fucking outdated bullshit.

Twitch (Kyle) on [26 Oct : 00:33]
A house, food, and everything you need to survive should be free. Amen coal, FUCK MONEY

Monkey on [24 Oct : 14:16]
The only time i ever have money is when i don't need it, then i end up blowing it on drugs and then when i need money i don't have any.

trevorstd on [22 Oct : 09:56]
There is a lot of other good Korean bands... Rux (biggest punk band in Korea), Suck Stuff, 99 Anger (recently moved to Canada) and there is SKUNK Label which is really cool. Most Korean bands really idolize Rancid and their sound and try to imitate it.

Coal on [21 Oct : 07:15]
Fuck money.

Twitch (Kyle) on [20 Oct : 02:08]
I wanted so badly to go but I have to go on this gay family vacation thing to a cabin.

access-denied on [19 Oct : 07:42]
Be nice to see Youth Brigade. Yeah, Money is always an issue in my world these days.

Monkey on [18 Oct : 11:41]
im not. i got no money.

Twitch (Kyle) on [16 Oct : 02:32]
anyone here goin to youth brigade?

Twitch (Kyle) on [29 Sep : 11:46]
Ya I know this korean punk band the Spiky Brats. Their fuckin awesome. They sound like mickey mouse on crack [link]

trevorstd on [29 Sep : 08:01]
ya paul was from korea, he was going to vet school and his dad is in the military and pres Bush voted to cut military salaries and his dad couldn't afford to pay for Pauls schooling anymore. it sucks cause paul had 1 year left and he was 21 and in korea you can't go to vet school til your 24. so he did a year of schooling for nothing. but paul is a medic and in Iraq right now.... he watched too much M.A.S.H. and decided to join the military

access-denied on [26 Sep : 08:31]
Isn't he from Korea?


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ALL UTAH PUNX UNDER 21!! READ THIS AND REPOST!!! email to someone | printer friendly
Give out this info to all you're friends and tell them to do the same.
LETS TRY TO MAKE THIS AN ALL AGES SHOW IN THE CLUB PARKING LOT!!!!!!! Tell Dusty that Utah has a under 21 punk scene and this show should be for us also!!!!

The bands will be FEAR, DI, TOTAL CHAOS,ANGENT ORANGE,SKINT. July 28th at Club Vegas 21+ 445 S 400 W SLC, Phone 801-364-8347 leave a mesage that you want this to be an all ages show!! tix $18
www...myspace...com/..clubvegasrocks

Have every one call the club and leave a few message and comments on his myspace BUG THE FUCK OUT OF THIS GUY AND LET HIM KNOW THE PUNX WILL BE THERE IF HE PUTS THE SHOW IN THE PARKING LOT!!!

Lets make this work. Make your own flyer about this if you want. Thanx! Cheers!!!

i got this from skint so i thought i would pass it on to you.
[Submitted by dave]
Posted by: access-denied on Monday 27 July 2009 - 17:49:00 | comments: 35

Woman accused of killing newborn ate brain email to someone | printer friendly
Woman accused of killing newborn ate brain

SAN ANTONIO (AP) - A woman charged with murdering her 3 1/2-week-old son used a knife and two swords to dismember the child and ate parts of his body, including his brain, before stabbing herself in the torso and slicing her own throat, police said Monday.

Otty Sanchez, 33, is charged with capital murder in the death of her infant son, Scott Wesley Buchholtz-Sanchez. She was recovering from her wounds at a hospital, and was being held on $1 million bail.

San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said the early Sunday morning attack occurred a week after the child's father moved out. The child's aunt and two cousins, ages 5 and 7, were in the house, but none were harmed.

McManus, who appeared uncomfortable as he addressed reporters, said Sanchez apparently ate the child's brain and some other body parts. She also tore his face off, chewed off three of his toes and decapitated the infant before stabbing herself.

"It's too heinous for me to describe it any further," McManus said.

Officers called to Sanchez's house at about 5 a.m. Sunday found her sitting on the couch "screaming that she killed her baby," police spokesman Joe Rios said. They found the boy's body in a bedroom.

Police said Sanchez said the devil told her to kill her son.

"It was a spontaneous utterance," McManus said. "She said she was hearing voices."

Sanchez does not yet have a lawyer, police said, and was hospitalized in San Antonio. The police declined to identify other family members.

No one answered the door Monday at Sanchez's home, where the blinds were shut. A hopscotch pattern and red hearts were drawn on the walk leading up to the house.

Neighbor Luis Yanez said everyone on the street was appalled by the news.

"Why would you do that to your baby?" said Yanez, 23, a tire technician. "It brings chills to you. They can't defend themselves."
[Submitted by access-denied]
Posted by: access-denied on Monday 27 July 2009 - 17:47:51 | comments: 30

Naked Swiss hikers must cover up email to someone | printer friendly
Naked Swiss hikers must cover up
By Imogen Foulkes
BBC News, Geneva

A naked rambler
No more freezing hikes in Appenzell Innerrhoden

The tiny Swiss canton of Appenzell Innerrhoden has voted to prohibit the phenomenon of naked hiking.

Anyone found wandering the Alps wearing nothing but a sturdy pair of hiking boots will now be fined.

Appenzell is considered one of the most conservative regions of Switzerland; it gave women the vote only in 1990.

Locals have been outraged by an apparent upsurge in hikers who think the best way to appreciate the mountains is with their clothes off.

The vote was taken with a show of hands at Appenzell's annual Landsgemeinde, an open-air meeting of all registered voters held in the town square.

Appenzell is one of only two Swiss cantons that still decide local government policy in this way.

There was a big majority in favour of prohibiting naked hiking, and introducing fines of Sfr 200 ($175).

Inappropriate

Among local people, it is hard to find anyone who has a good word to say for the hikers.

I meet people from time to time, but they always say hello, sometimes they ask aren't you cold
Naked rambler

"I think it's disgraceful," said one elderly gentleman. "God may have created us naked, but he gave us clothes to walk around in."

"It's just not right," said a woman. "Not at all appropriate for our country."

Interestingly, however, no-one actually seems to have seen a naked hiker.

"No, I've never seen one," said a local farmer. "Thank goodness, because if I had they would certainly have got a piece of my mind."

Hiker disappointment

Among naked hikers themselves, there is disappointment at what they see as an over-reaction to an innocent hobby which disturbs no-one.

"I'm not out to annoy anyone," insists one of them, who goes by the colourful pseudonym of Puistola Grottenpösch.
appenzeller men in traditional dress
Not everone in Appenzeller wants to go nude in public

Puistola and many other naked hikers may be comfortable baring their all up in the mountains, but the controversy in Appenzell has made them very shy about revealing their real names.

"For me hiking naked is all about getting out into natural surroundings, peaceful surroundings, and challenging myself a little bit," says Puistola.

"Of course I meet people from time to time, but they always say hello, sometimes they ask aren't you cold. But they're just as friendly as if I was wearing clothes."

Nevertheless, as Puistola strides along a snowy hiking trail wearing nothing but a hat, gloves, and hiking boots, it's hard to see what the attraction of naked hiking really is.

"Of course the human body needs protection," he concedes.

"So right now I'm wearing hiking boots and gloves and a hat, because it's a little bit chilly. And if it's really cold, or windy, or wet, then of course going naked just doesn't work, and I wear clothes just like everyone else.

"But right now it's nice, there is a gentle breeze, and I can feel the Sun on my body; you can't because you're dressed."

Legal doubts

Meanwhile some Swiss lawyers are describing Appenzell's decision to prohibit naked hiking as akin to using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

"I estimate there are only around 20 to 25 naked hikers in the whole of Switzerland," says lawyer Daniel Kettiger. "So really arresting them and fining them is a bit silly. And our courts do have better things to do."

What's more, Mr Kettiger points out, Appenzell may have over-reached itself legally in deciding to introduce a prohibition.

"The Swiss parliament voted to remove public nudity from the penal code in 1991," he explains. "So at a federal level, naked hiking is not punishable, and Appenzell's laws are not higher than the federal ones."

Image damage

But Appenzell is determined to go ahead. The canton has some of the most stunning mountain scenery in Switzerland, and its tourist board has been running a high-profile international marketing campaign, highlighting the beauty of Appenzell's hiking trails.

Tourist officers were concerned to discover that Appenzell was regularly appearing in the internet chatrooms of German nudist groups, describing it as the best place for naked hiking.
Naked ramblers
The canton was keen to stamp out nude hiking before the summer

This was not the image they were hoping for, and, Daniel Kettiger suggests, it might be the real reason behind Appenzell's ban on naked hiking.

"They really did a great job building up the hiking tourism," he explains. "And I think they fear naked hikers could harm their image. They want to be a Mecca for hikers - but not a Mecca for nude hikers."

Appenzell Innerrhoden's decision is being watched closely by other alpine regions of Switzerland, and the political climate for naked hikers does seem to be turning decidedly chilly.

Neighbouring Appenzell Outerrhoden is also proposing a ban on what local politicians call "shameless behaviour".

And just over the mountains in canton Glarus, there is nervousness that if naked hikers are driven out of Appenzell, they may choose Glarus as their next favourite spot.

But Puistola Grottenpösch and his fellow hikers are defiant, believing they have Swiss federal law on their side.

"We naked hikers have never broken any law with our hobby," he insists.

"And we will fight up to the highest federal court for our right to be naked in public, even in Appenzell."

[Submitted by britnick]
Posted by: access-denied on Friday 01 May 2009 - 08:33:45 | comments: 58

How Overfishing Almost Got Capt. Phillips Killed by Pirates email to someone | printer friendly

How Overfishing Almost Got Capt. Phillips Killed by Pirates
by Brian Merchant, Brooklyn, New York on 04.13.09

By now, you've surely heard the engrossing story of Captain Richard Phillips, who was taken hostage by pirates off the coast of Somalia, and freed by a swift Navy sharpshooting operation that left three dead. But what you probably haven't heard is that the true root of this crisis isn't bloodthirsty pirates�??it's overfishing.

The Decline of Somali Fishermen
Thousands of Somalis once made their living as fishermen. But Somalia has been without a central government for nearly two decades�??so there's no active body that's able to effectively protect the country's rights to its coastline, and the once-abundant supply of fish it held. So now, due to the willingness of foreigners to exploit fisheries off Somalia's coast, and the lack of a governing body to stave them off, many of these fishermen are finding their nets empty.

It's estimated that $300 million worth of seafood is stolen from Somali waters altogether every year�??a massive amount in any country, but even more so in one with such a depressed economy as Somalia's. Some local fisherman believe there will be no fishing industry to speak of if the practice goes on unchecked�??so over-plundered are the fish populations in Somali waters.

A Path to Piracy
And without the ability to bring home even a sufficient amount of fish to eat, many of these fisherman justifiably grow desperate. But even from here, it's not a simple jump to pirating. Initially, many of the now-termed "pirates" were vigilante patrol squads, steering their boats to fishing vessels they found illegally snagging seafood or dumping toxic waste in Somali waters and demanding they pay a tax. After this proved ineffective, something closer to organized piracy developed.

All of this is detailed in a fascinating interview a Somali "pirate" gave with to the New York Times after helping to capture a Ukrainian vessel carrying a massive weapons load to the Sudan. And both cases have much in common: it's hard not to get the impression that the "pirates" are desperate, reactionary, and to some degree, inept�??why else would four barely armed men take on a US cargo vessel, and attempt to outmaneuver the Navy with a single hostage?

Desperation. Much of which stemmed from wildly unsustainable fishing practices. And that's how overfishing left three men dead and almost got the heroic Capt. Phillips killed.

Final note: hostage taking is a deplorable, desperate act. But such desperate acts are often done out of necessity, or at least perceived necessity--while such violent acts should never be condoned, they need to be understood.
[Submitted by britnick]
Posted by: access-denied on Friday 01 May 2009 - 08:33:19 | comments: 50

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